Brand | Brooks England |
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Color | BLACK |
Product Dimensions | 14"L x 9"W x 4"H |
Material | Leather, steel rails |
Pad Type | Gel Pad |
Bike Type | City Bike, Road bike, cyclocross bike, mountain bike, commuter bike, casual bike, cruiser bike |
Item Package Dimensions L x W x H | 13.43 x 8.66 x 3.39 inches |
Package Weight | 1.07 Kilograms |
Item Dimensions LxWxH | 14 x 9 x 4 inches |
Item Weight | 0.53 Kilograms |
Brand Name | Brooks England |
Country of Origin | United Kingdom |
Warranty Description | Two years from the date of purchase against defects in manufacture or materials |
Model Name | Bicycle Saddle |
Suggested Users | mens |
Number of Items | 1 |
Manufacturer | Brooks England |
Part Number | B211 A07202 |
Model Year | 2015 |
Style | Standard |
Included Components | Saddle |
Size | Standard |
Sport Type | Cycling |
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Brand | Brooks England |
Color | BLACK |
Product Dimensions | 14"L x 9"W x 4"H |
Material | Leather, steel rails |
Pad Type | Gel Pad |
About this item
- Leather
- Imported
- Rails: steel
- Shell: full-grain leather
- Seat Length: 275mm
- Seat Width: 175mm
- Claimed Weight: 580g
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From the manufacturer
The Original English Leather Saddle
The B17 is our flagship model, ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and mountain bike use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalog . The model is available for gents and ladies: the B17 (gents) and B17 S (ladies).
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Black Steel RailsThe Standard models feature black steel rails, the B17 Special features copper plated steel metalwork, and the B17 Titanium/ Both the B17 Special and the Titanium also feature hand hammered copper rivets. |
Handmade in EnglandThis saddle is handmade in England. |
Vegetable Tanned LeatherConstructed with pure vegetable tanned leather, Black powder coated all black steel rails and tubular steel rivets. If leather is cracking or distressed, apply a small amount of Brooks Proofide. |
History and Heritage
Brooks England has been making quality goods ever since the founder created the Brooks company in 1866. Today they remain committed to his legacy. His early blueprints and inspirational pursuit of innovation led to a wealth of quality, durable and beautiful products so Brooks preserves that spirit by combining the very best of modern technology with the timeless Brooks aesthetic. They still deliver the finest saddles and cycling accessories to their customers across the world- even after all this time.
Product Description
Brooks Saddle B17 Standard is our flagship model, Ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and atb use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalogue. The Standard models feature black steel rails and the Honey leather seat features tubular steel rivets. The saddle weighs 525 grams.
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ASIN | B000HZA918 |
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Customer Reviews |
4.7 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #24,621 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #62 in Bike Saddles |
Date First Available | March 29, 2007 |
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Customers like the comfort, quality and appearance of the bicycle saddle. For example, they mention that it's well made, has outstanding Brooks quality and that the leather hammock design is really ingenious. That said, they appreciate the fit, leather dressing, and performance. Opinions are mixed on the value and ease of installation.
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Customers like the comfort of the bike. For example, they say it's worth the fuss, has absolutely no butt bone discomfort, and feels amazing after breaking it in. Some mention that the seat is not bad to ride on and that it gives a custom fit that is perfect for their body.
"...It is incredibly comfortable and durable and I would recommend buying. It was delivered very fast as well." Read more
"...It is far more comfortable than the standard seat that came with my $1,100 Giant road bike. I recommend it and raise it to five stars...." Read more
"So this magic seat is hard but it's supposed to be incredibly comfortable? It takes hundreds of miles of break in but after that it's nirvana...." Read more
"It hurt for a day or so, and then all of a sudden...nothing. No pain, not even after riding all day...." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the quality of the saddle. They mention that it is well-made, comfortable, and worth the money. Some say that the saddle is superb and holds up great. Overall, most are happy with their purchase and recommend it to others.
"...It is incredibly comfortable and durable and I would recommend buying. It was delivered very fast as well." Read more
"...Probably. Is this an awesome seat filled with history and eclectic British style? Oh yeah. I never knew these existed until recently...." Read more
"...Really nice upgrade for a hardtail, for sure." Read more
"...me and when I need another I will not hesitate but this one is holding up great. Do yourself a favor and get this one." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the appearance of the bike. They mention that it has a very good look, the leather hammock design is ingenious, and it looks sharp for this type of bike. Customers also appreciate the seat filled with history and the eclectic British style.
"...Probably. Is this an awesome seat filled with history and eclectic British style? Oh yeah. I never knew these existed until recently...." Read more
"...The leather hammock design is really ingenious. Gives where you need it to and even damps road vibration and bumps...." Read more
"...bike, I'm not concerned about a few extra ounces, and it looks sharp for this type of bike. For me, there is no break-in period (ymmv)...." Read more
"...On the plus side the Brooks saddle is a work of art. It is beautiful. But it was not to be for me." Read more
Customers like the fit of the saddle. They say it fits perfectly, is of top quality, and conforms to their size. Some mention that the width is perfect for their generous kiester and that there is more room to adjust the forward/back position of the seat.
"...The stock saddle was too narrow for my particular body, and the B17 fits like a glove...." Read more
"...Not only does the saddle fit perfectly now, it is extremely good looking...." Read more
"...The leather molds to your sit bones and gives a custom fit that is perfect for your body...." Read more
"...On a side note, the box and packaging are top notch and fitting for such a classic saddle." Read more
Customers like the leather dressing. They say the leather is top notch, the feel of real leather is indescribable, and it protects the leather. The leather molds to your sit bones and gives a custom fit that is perfect for your body.
"...The leather is top notch and if it breaks in further I will be ecstatic - but it's already quite comfortable for riding and a huge improvement over..." Read more
"...The leather molds to your sit bones and gives a custom fit that is perfect for your body...." Read more
"...Can't say that it sped process up but it protects the leather and smells great." Read more
"...The riveting process also disturbed the leather to the point where it was significantly wrinkled around the rivets...." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the performance of the saddle. They mention that it works well for high and low riding positions, and is excellent in use. The saddle also works well with any type of cycling clothing and starts good.
"...Third update: original Brooks saddle is still in fine working condition and I expect to use it into my sunset years (I am 64)...." Read more
"...I can only say I was glad to have a full can, and it is working out so very well -- it's costly, but the ingredients in it are costly..." Read more
"...It worked wonderfully from the first time I used it. I had no problem riding 5 to 8 hour days with no miles on the saddle for break-in...." Read more
"...It works fine for high and low riding position.I am 6 feet tall and ~200lbs." Read more
Customers are mixed about the value of the bike seat. Some mention that it's worth the price, while others say that it isn't worth what they paid for it.
"...It's worth the money. See my related review of the Brooks Proofide paraffin wax for treating the leather for some tips on application:..." Read more
"Definitely worth the money." Read more
"...years so someone's been doing something the right way, yes, it's a bit pricey but worth every bit of it and then some...." Read more
"...Worth every penny. I’m not a fancy spandex rider but like to go on 10-50 mile rides in the warm weather and this is the seat for me." Read more
Customers are mixed about the ease of installation. Some mention it's well made, easy to install and adjust, and a joy to apply. However, others say that it'll be hard on the knees.
"Easy to mount and nice to ride!!!" Read more
"...do at least twenty miles per ride, and the Brooks seat was indeed hard on the coño on the second half of my first twenty-miler using it...." Read more
"...of Proofide too -- yes it is expensive but goes a long way and is a joy to apply...." Read more
"...They are tough and hard at the beginning, you will think; what the hell? Did I spend this much amount of money on a piece of wood to sit on?..." Read more
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Hard to believe, right?
Here's the deal - the concept of this seat is very simple - it's a hammock seat - meaning instead of sitting on a bunch of padding you sit on a suspension of material. I think the break in factor is an illusion - almost every bike seat I've ever used was uncomfortable at first before getting used to it. So what if people are just getting used to it?
I ride motorcycles too - and realized early on that a "plush" seat is horrible after a 2+ hour ride. Why - because what was soft is now creating pressure and bottoming out where it shouldn't. Instead, a harder seat is far superior. Same applies here.
So what model to choose? Is this size the same as the narrower or really wide ones? Here's the part they don't tell you - it's all about seating angle. If you ride at a more aggressive angle - you need a narrower seat sized to your sit bones. If you sit upright - you need a wider seat sized to your tuchus.
Here's something you can try with your CURRENT seat - without buying anything. Ride 100 yards at the most upright position you can. Stop. Now ride 100 yards at the about a 45 degree angle representing a touring or casual mountain bike. Now ride 100 yards at about a 60 degree angle which represents a more racing/professional/hard core rider position. Which feels best to you? Your seat will tell you which is best. That's the angle the seat was designed for.
Now comes the B17. The B17 is the longest running model in the Brooks line - cool, right? It's significantly wider at about 170 mm compared to 140mm for a typical road or mountain bike seat. But the real question is what are your site bones? If you have sit bones that are wider, get the B17 or C19. If you have average build but want comfort, get a B17 or C17. For you narrower people, I have nothing but resentment and fomo so you're on your own.
Do you get the B17 if you ride a beach cruiser? No - get a wider model. For some riders it will "work" but not because it's the right model but because it's a happy coincidence with body type. The B17 is for people that want a 45 degree to 60 degree riding angle and have the right sit bones to use it. It's not a "sit up on top" seat.
From a pure aesthetic perspective the seat is absolutely gorgeous. The leather is top notch and if it breaks in further I will be ecstatic - but it's already quite comfortable for riding and a huge improvement over my 140mm stock seat. Looking forward to many miles.
Are there other seats that would provide just as much comfort? Probably. Is this an awesome seat filled with history and eclectic British style? Oh yeah. I never knew these existed until recently. Knew I had to have one. You do, too. Just pick the right one based on site bones, riding style and riding angle.
Reviewed in the United States on August 20, 2022
The leather hammock design is really ingenious. Gives where you need it to and even damps road vibration and bumps. Really nice upgrade for a hardtail, for sure.
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Vere vere vere vere nice. Good producta.
I'm 53 and own a gravel bike, a road bike, a mountain bike and a city bike...I've mostly used my Look road bike for many years for my long rides and tried: the saddle that came with it, at least 3 different Specialized saddles, a Fizik saddle, a Bontrager and finally a Fabric Scoop that I enjoyed for a few years, it was the best I've had ever...lately I bought a new Trek Checkpoint, gravel bike, and right away knew the saddle that came with it wasn't for me... I ordered another Fabric but this time the Cell, as I thought that, with a little more upright position I would be fine...very bad choice...
Then, 2 weeks ago, I ordered a Brooks, based on all the positive reviews...I didn't see any negative review...yes there is a break in period: is it 100 KM ? 200 KM ? I don't know as I rode only 75 KM so far...not much time lately but the first ride, as I just wanted to start break it in, was 10KM, and yes it was hard like rock, even if I treated it with Proofide, the second time, 20KM, a little better, and the third time 50KM, much better, actually already better than what I have tried to date! I am impressed and excited and looking forward to my next ride!
How can such a hard (because it's still hard) saddle be so comfortable? Actually you don't sink in any type of foam, and your skin doesn't stay or 'fold' in a bad 'position' if I should say...
I am very happy! do not hesitate! and on top of that, it's stylish!