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Brooks England B17 Standard

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Brand Brooks England
Color BLACK
Product Dimensions 14"L x 9"W x 4"H
Material Leather, steel rails
Pad Type Gel Pad

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  • Leather
  • Imported
  • Rails: steel
  • Shell: full-grain leather
  • Seat Length: 275mm
  • Seat Width: 175mm
  • Claimed Weight: 580g
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The Original English Leather Saddle

The B17 is our flagship model, ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and mountain bike use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalog . The model is available for gents and ladies: the B17 (gents) and B17 S (ladies).

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Black Steel Rails

The Standard models feature black steel rails, the B17 Special features copper plated steel metalwork, and the B17 Titanium/ Both the B17 Special and the Titanium also feature hand hammered copper rivets.

Handmade in England

This saddle is handmade in England.

Vegetable Tanned Leather

Constructed with pure vegetable tanned leather, Black powder coated all black steel rails and tubular steel rivets. If leather is cracking or distressed, apply a small amount of Brooks Proofide.

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History and Heritage

Brooks England has been making quality goods ever since the founder created the Brooks company in 1866. Today they remain committed to his legacy. His early blueprints and inspirational pursuit of innovation led to a wealth of quality, durable and beautiful products so Brooks preserves that spirit by combining the very best of modern technology with the timeless Brooks aesthetic. They still deliver the finest saddles and cycling accessories to their customers across the world- even after all this time.

Product Description

Brooks Saddle B17 Standard is our flagship model, Ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and atb use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalogue. The Standard models feature black steel rails and the Honey leather seat features tubular steel rivets. The saddle weighs 525 grams.

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4.7 out of 5 stars
4.7 out of 5
1,721 global ratings

Customers say

Customers like the comfort, performance, fit, appearance and leather dressing of the bicycle seat. For example, they mention that it works well, fits perfectly and looks sharp. They appreciate the leather hammock design and the fact that it looks better with time.

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202 customers mention168 positive34 negative

Customers like the comfort of the bike. They say it's worth the fuss, has absolutely no butt bone discomfort, and feels amazing after breaking it in. Some say that the seat wasn't bad to ride on and that it gives a custom fit that is perfect for their body.

"...expecting a long break in period, but even on the first ride it was comfortable. I can only imagine it’s gonna get better as time goes on...." Read more

"...Once broken in, there isn’t a more comfortable saddle. I have 4 bikes and b17 for each of them...." Read more

"So this magic seat is hard but it's supposed to be incredibly comfortable? It takes hundreds of miles of break in but after that it's nirvana...." Read more

"...It is incredibly comfortable and durable and I would recommend buying. It was delivered very fast as well." Read more

129 customers mention119 positive10 negative

Customers are satisfied with the quality of the bicycle seat. They mention that it is well-made, comfortable, and excellent. Some say that the saddle is superb and holds up great.

"...Very well made, stylish, unparalleled comfort. The b17 will change your life." Read more

"...It is incredibly comfortable and durable and I would recommend buying. It was delivered very fast as well." Read more

"...me and when I need another I will not hesitate but this one is holding up great. Do yourself a favor and get this one." Read more

"...Really nice upgrade for a hardtail, for sure." Read more

58 customers mention55 positive3 negative

Customers are satisfied with the appearance of the bike. They mention that it has a very good look, the leather hammock design is ingenious, and it looks sharp for this type of bike. Some customers also say that the seat fills with history and has an eclectic British style.

"...Very well made, stylish, unparalleled comfort. The b17 will change your life." Read more

"...Probably. Is this an awesome seat filled with history and eclectic British style? Oh yeah. I never knew these existed until recently...." Read more

"...The leather hammock design is really ingenious. Gives where you need it to and even damps road vibration and bumps...." Read more

"...bike, I'm not concerned about a few extra ounces, and it looks sharp for this type of bike. For me, there is no break-in period (ymmv)...." Read more

18 customers mention14 positive4 negative

Customers like the fit of the saddle. For example, they mention it fits perfectly, it conforms to them, and has more room to adjust the forward/back position.

"...The stock saddle was too narrow for my particular body, and the B17 fits like a glove...." Read more

"...Not only does the saddle fit perfectly now, it is extremely good looking...." Read more

"...The leather molds to your sit bones and gives a custom fit that is perfect for your body...." Read more

"...On a side note, the box and packaging are top notch and fitting for such a classic saddle." Read more

14 customers mention11 positive3 negative

Customers like the leather dressing. They mention that the leather is top notch, the feel of real leather is indescribable, and it protects the leather. Customers also say that the dressing molds to their sit bones and gives a custom fit that is perfect for their body.

"...The leather is top notch and if it breaks in further I will be ecstatic - but it's already quite comfortable for riding and a huge improvement over..." Read more

"...The leather molds to your sit bones and gives a custom fit that is perfect for your body...." Read more

"...Can't say that it sped process up but it protects the leather and smells great." Read more

"...The riveting process also disturbed the leather to the point where it was significantly wrinkled around the rivets...." Read more

14 customers mention14 positive0 negative

Customers are satisfied with the performance of the saddle. They mention that it works well for high and low riding positions, and is excellent in use. They also say that it starts good and only gets better as it breaks in.

"...Third update: original Brooks saddle is still in fine working condition and I expect to use it into my sunset years (I am 64)...." Read more

"...I can only say I was glad to have a full can, and it is working out so very well -- it's costly, but the ingredients in it are costly..." Read more

"...It worked wonderfully from the first time I used it. I had no problem riding 5 to 8 hour days with no miles on the saddle for break-in...." Read more

"...It works fine for high and low riding position.I am 6 feet tall and ~200lbs." Read more

38 customers mention26 positive12 negative

Customers are mixed about the value of the bicycle seat. Some mention that it's worth the price, while others say that it is not worth what they paid for it.

"...It's worth the money. See my related review of the Brooks Proofide paraffin wax for treating the leather for some tips on application:..." Read more

"...Worth every penny. I’m not a fancy spandex rider but like to go on 10-50 mile rides in the warm weather and this is the seat for me." Read more

"...years so someone's been doing something the right way, yes, it's a bit pricey but worth every bit of it and then some...." Read more

"Definitely worth the money." Read more

18 customers mention9 positive9 negative

Customers are mixed about the ease of installation. Some mention it's well-made and easy to install and adjust the seat. The instructions and care directions are clear and easy read. However, some customers say the seat is too hard and cumbersome.

"Easy to mount and nice to ride!!!" Read more

"...do at least twenty miles per ride, and the Brooks seat was indeed hard on the coño on the second half of my first twenty-miler using it...." Read more

"...of Proofide too -- yes it is expensive but goes a long way and is a joy to apply...." Read more

"...They are tough and hard at the beginning, you will think; what the hell? Did I spend this much amount of money on a piece of wood to sit on?..." Read more

Well made and comfortable!
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Well made and comfortable!
Purchased recently after trying for 20 years to resist the urge due to the price. I finally gave up after reading the numerous glowing reports that it is the most comfortable saddle ever. I applied the Brooks Proofide under the saddle and a thin application on the top smooth surface as instructed. I then biked for 12 miles. I have read report that you don’t need the 500 miles to “break it” so it will soften and be more comfortable following the contour of the anatomy of your buttocks that’s always in contact to the saddle. I had a little discomfort from my left portion of the buttock ( ischial tuberosity)due to pressure on the saddle. I was debating on taking it off this morning and using my old saddle. However I figured to give it another try. I felt the uncomfortable pressure again as described above as soon as I mounted the bike. .To my surprise however at the 3 mile mark of my regular 10-12 mile ride, it disappeared almost completely and continued to my satisfaction till the end of the ride. ! I placed 3 stars for I am still in the process of evaluating this world famous and supposedly the “holy grail” of bike saddle as described by one cyclist. At this point in time I am beginning to like it and will continue riding on it. I am however disappointed by several reports that Brooks did not honored the 2 year warranty when the metal portion under the saddle broke! Amazon apparently didn’t want to get involve as well. So I would like to hear from Brooks if this indeed is true!
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Bret C.
5.0 out of 5 stars I’m a believer
Reviewed in the United States on May 7, 2024
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
I recently bought a steel framed gravel bike and was using the seat that it came with for a while. I switched over to this expecting a long break in period, but even on the first ride it was comfortable. I can only imagine it’s gonna get better as time goes on. Pleasantly surprised!
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Oliver
5.0 out of 5 stars Best Saddle
Reviewed in the United States on April 28, 2024
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
If you would like to enjoy riding more than ever, purchase a b17. Once broken in, there isn’t a more comfortable saddle. I have 4 bikes and b17 for each of them. Hopefully I will own many more bikes in my lifetime, but I doubt I will ever need to buy another saddle. Very well made, stylish, unparalleled comfort. The b17 will change your life.
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graybeard
5.0 out of 5 stars Beautiful, comfortable and durable
Reviewed in the United States on April 30, 2024
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
This is a lifetime saddle that will form to you. I sold my last one with the bike and have regretted it. I’m looking forward to breaking this one in.
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Brocktoon The Great
5.0 out of 5 stars Here's what they don't tell you
Reviewed in the United States on July 31, 2020
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
So this magic seat is hard but it's supposed to be incredibly comfortable? It takes hundreds of miles of break in but after that it's nirvana. It's old technology but it's far better than any of the latest and greatest technologies.

Hard to believe, right?

Here's the deal - the concept of this seat is very simple - it's a hammock seat - meaning instead of sitting on a bunch of padding you sit on a suspension of material. I think the break in factor is an illusion - almost every bike seat I've ever used was uncomfortable at first before getting used to it. So what if people are just getting used to it?

I ride motorcycles too - and realized early on that a "plush" seat is horrible after a 2+ hour ride. Why - because what was soft is now creating pressure and bottoming out where it shouldn't. Instead, a harder seat is far superior. Same applies here.

So what model to choose? Is this size the same as the narrower or really wide ones? Here's the part they don't tell you - it's all about seating angle. If you ride at a more aggressive angle - you need a narrower seat sized to your sit bones. If you sit upright - you need a wider seat sized to your tuchus.

Here's something you can try with your CURRENT seat - without buying anything. Ride 100 yards at the most upright position you can. Stop. Now ride 100 yards at the about a 45 degree angle representing a touring or casual mountain bike. Now ride 100 yards at about a 60 degree angle which represents a more racing/professional/hard core rider position. Which feels best to you? Your seat will tell you which is best. That's the angle the seat was designed for.

Now comes the B17. The B17 is the longest running model in the Brooks line - cool, right? It's significantly wider at about 170 mm compared to 140mm for a typical road or mountain bike seat. But the real question is what are your site bones? If you have sit bones that are wider, get the B17 or C19. If you have average build but want comfort, get a B17 or C17. For you narrower people, I have nothing but resentment and fomo so you're on your own.

Do you get the B17 if you ride a beach cruiser? No - get a wider model. For some riders it will "work" but not because it's the right model but because it's a happy coincidence with body type. The B17 is for people that want a 45 degree to 60 degree riding angle and have the right sit bones to use it. It's not a "sit up on top" seat.

From a pure aesthetic perspective the seat is absolutely gorgeous. The leather is top notch and if it breaks in further I will be ecstatic - but it's already quite comfortable for riding and a huge improvement over my 140mm stock seat. Looking forward to many miles.

Are there other seats that would provide just as much comfort? Probably. Is this an awesome seat filled with history and eclectic British style? Oh yeah. I never knew these existed until recently. Knew I had to have one. You do, too. Just pick the right one based on site bones, riding style and riding angle.
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Jay Read
5.0 out of 5 stars Great saddle!
Reviewed in the United States on February 27, 2024
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
I accidentally stumbled upon this seat when borrowing a bike and loved it so much I ordered my own. It is incredibly comfortable and durable and I would recommend buying. It was delivered very fast as well.
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Dude
4.0 out of 5 stars How to soften up your saddle without riding on it.
Reviewed in the United States on March 13, 2017
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
I had a Books B17 saddle back when I was much younger, and I thought it never really broke in. I just ordered another one, and I came up with a great way to break it in before you even put it on your bike. I just opened it 20 minutes ago, it was hard as a rock. Now it feels very soft and supple, and I am going to put it on and try it. It is already noticiablly softer... and it has only been 20 minutes... I probably would have had to ride 1000 miles to get the same effect.

Here is what you do:

Disclaimer: I weigh 175 lbs, so if you weigh way more than that or way less, adjust accordingly, or find a friend who weighs 175 to do it for you.

I don't know why I didn't think of this back when I had my last one... The saddle is totally soft now, and it is such an obvious idea...

Its simple...

Take the saddle and place it on the floor upright, on carpet or a rug.

I am wearing tennis shoes, and it didn't make marks, it did stretch it out and there are stretch marks on the leather, but I don't care about that. I don't want to worship this thing, I just want to sit on it and have it be comfortable... It is going to be up my *** anyway, so why worship it.... lol.

What you do, is put it on the floor, and put one foot on the saddle, and then put PART OF your weight on it in 1 second intervals to stretch out the leather. Do it maybe 10 times, then feel it to see how noticably softer it is getting. DO NOT STOMP ON IT (although if you have been trying to use your *** to break it in, you might feel like doing that!!) Just GENTLY put some weight on it and stretch out the leather. I probably put 75% of my weight on it. You will feel the leather stretching, and dont worry, there is a bolt on the bottom to tighten up the leather if you miss the extreme pain... ;)

If you want it softer, do it a few more times... Repeat until it is soft enough for you. It totally makes it softer. Saving your behind a lot of unnecessary pain... Let your foot do the work.

Now I am going to put some proofhide on it and then put it on and try it out. If it still hurts, I am going to repeat this process. It is like 100% softer than it was 20 minutes ago.

Dont stomp on it, just gently put your weight on it all over it for 1 second and then take the weight off, and repeat.. move your foot around and stretch out the whole seat until it feels right for you.

Actually, I ended up slathering it with proofhide and baking it at 150 degrees for 15 minutes. Worked like a charm. It soaks the proofhide right into the leather because it opens up the pores.

Just google "Baking Brooks Saddle", and the article will come up. It really works. It was super soft the first time I rode it..

I actually baked it 2x and put the entire 40g tin of proofhide in it before riding it... It made it super soft.
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Alexander Dyer
5.0 out of 5 stars Works Better Than It Looks
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2023
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
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 I have ridden a bike my whole life so for over 50 years. I had trouble finding a bike seat for my latest mountain bike and I tried 4 or 5. I even tried the Brooks plastic version and it was a no go for me. Riding a bike with the wrong seat sucks. Finally I bought the Brooks B17 Leather and now after using it for a year and 6 months I want to tell you that it is a great saddle. In the beginning there was a bit of a break in period but I attribute some of that to the fact that my ass was still sore from the last seat I had used. I mention the break in but it was no big deal, it never cut a ride short like some of the others did. It was good in the beginning and now it is great. This is the perfect seat for me and when I need another I will not hesitate but this one is holding up great. Do yourself a favor and get this one.
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RUBENS NEVES
5.0 out of 5 stars Ótimo
Reviewed in Brazil on August 14, 2023
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
É um Brooks, não precisa dizer mais nada.
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5.0 out of 5 stars What a wow!
Reviewed in India on January 15, 2024
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
Oisome.....!
Vere vere vere vere nice. Good producta.
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Paul Slater
5.0 out of 5 stars Very sturdy and comfortable
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on July 28, 2023
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
The price goes up over time but the quality is still there. I bought my first saddle 30 years ago. It took some breaking in! I'm not sure if it was me or the saddle that broke in but once we achieved harmony it was always comfortable. Unfortunately the rail broke and I had to buy a new one. This was just as comfortable straight from the off. I can't see why I won't get another 30 years of use out of it.
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Nick Orso
5.0 out of 5 stars Brooks B17
Reviewed in Italy on February 13, 2022
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
Ancora non ho potuto apprezzarne appieno le qualità, ma la prima impressione è che la qualità dei materiali e la qualità costruttiva siano al TOP. La uso da una settimana, perciò mi riservo ulteriori valutazioni. Buona giornata
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Martin Flibotte
5.0 out of 5 stars I should have bought a Brooks saddle way before...
Reviewed in Canada on September 25, 2020
Color: BLACKSize: StandardVerified Purchase
In my never ending search for a bike saddle, I finally decided, after reading so many reviews and reading articles, to buy a Brooks! I waited that long because I've always told myself 'How can such an old design be good' ? With today's technology the new saddles are certainly better...

I'm 53 and own a gravel bike, a road bike, a mountain bike and a city bike...I've mostly used my Look road bike for many years for my long rides and tried: the saddle that came with it, at least 3 different Specialized saddles, a Fizik saddle, a Bontrager and finally a Fabric Scoop that I enjoyed for a few years, it was the best I've had ever...lately I bought a new Trek Checkpoint, gravel bike, and right away knew the saddle that came with it wasn't for me... I ordered another Fabric but this time the Cell, as I thought that, with a little more upright position I would be fine...very bad choice...

Then, 2 weeks ago, I ordered a Brooks, based on all the positive reviews...I didn't see any negative review...yes there is a break in period: is it 100 KM ? 200 KM ? I don't know as I rode only 75 KM so far...not much time lately but the first ride, as I just wanted to start break it in, was 10KM, and yes it was hard like rock, even if I treated it with Proofide, the second time, 20KM, a little better, and the third time 50KM, much better, actually already better than what I have tried to date! I am impressed and excited and looking forward to my next ride!

How can such a hard (because it's still hard) saddle be so comfortable? Actually you don't sink in any type of foam, and your skin doesn't stay or 'fold' in a bad 'position' if I should say...

I am very happy! do not hesitate! and on top of that, it's stylish!
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