Brand | Beeman |
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Color | black |
Rounds | 16 |
Caliber | 4.5 |
Product Dimensions | 11.75"L x 8.75"W x 1.5"H |
Item Weight | 1.8 Pounds |
Team Name | P17 |
Air Gun Power Type | single stroke pneumatic |
Barrel Material Type | Alloy Steel |
Frame Material | Plastic |
Item Package Dimensions L x W x H | 11.3 x 7.8 x 1.4 inches |
Package Weight | 2 Pounds |
Item Dimensions LxWxH | 11.75 x 8.75 x 1.5 inches |
Brand Name | Beeman |
Warranty Description | 1 year warranty w/proof of purchase |
Model Name | 2004 |
Material | Blend |
Suggested Users | unisex-adult |
Number of Items | 1 |
Manufacturer | Green Supply |
Part Number | 2004 |
Included Components | hunting-air-guns |
Size | One Size |
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Brand | Beeman |
Color | black |
Rounds | 16 |
Caliber | 4.5 |
Product Dimensions | 11.75"L x 8.75"W x 1.5"H |
Item Weight | 1.8 Pounds |
Team Name | P17 |
Air Gun Power Type | single stroke pneumatic |
Barrel Material Type | Alloy Steel |
Frame Material | Plastic |
About this item
- Caliber: .177 Pellet; Velocity: 410 FPS; Single shot high precision
- Weight: 1.7 pounds; Overall length: 9.5", Barrel length: 4.5"
- Pumps: Single pump (Recoilless); Action: Single stroke pneumatic
- Barrel: Rifled; Finish: Polymer Frame; Front Sights: Post; Rear Sights: Adjustable for windage and elevation
- Please refer to User Manual attached below for instructions and troubleshooting steps
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Beeman P17 Deluxe Pellet Pistol with Sights
Beeman P17 Deluxe Pellet Pistol features outstanding accuracy and velocity with a single pump. German engineered and designed single stroke pneumatic over-cocking design produces up to 410 fps velocity that's totally recoilless and no CO2 is required.
Target-style trigger provides crisp let-off and minimum take up. Custom shaped, finger groove grip helps improve shooting comfort and aids with accuracy. Polymer frame is durable and lightweight, cast aluminum slide and rifled steel barrel provide long life and repeatable accuracy. Includes manual safety and rear sights are adjustable for windage and elevation.
Specifications:
- Caliber: .177 Pellet
- Velocity: 410 fps
- Weight: 1.7 lbs.
- Overall Length: 9.5"
- Barrel Length: 4.5"
- Pump: Single (Recoiless)
- Action: Single Stroke Pneumatic
- Barrel: Rifled
- Finish: Polymer Frame
- Front Sights: Post
- Rear Sights: Adjustable for Windage and Elevation
- Scope Rail: 11mm (Requires Medium Rings)
- Trigger Pull: 4 lbs.
- Trigger: Target Style
- Safety: Manual
- Grips: Custom Shaped, Finger Grooved
Product Description
Beeman 2004 P17 Deluxe Pellet Pistol .177 410 FPS. This product is manufactured in China. Air guns less than 500 FPS. German engineered and designed single stroke pneumatic design produces up to 410 FPS velocity, that's totally recoilless and no Co2 is required. Target-style trigger provides crisp let-off and minimum take up. Custom shaped, finger groove grip helps improve shooting comfort and aids with accuracy. Polymer frame is durable and lightweight, rifled steel barrel provides long life and repeatable accuracy. Includes manual safety and rear sights are adjustable for windage and elevation.
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ASIN | B000W30UAA |
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Customer Reviews |
4.1 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #228,782 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #127 in Air Pistols |
Date First Available | April 4, 2008 |
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Customers like the texture, value, accuracy, and quality of the air pistol. They mention that the trigger is as good as they get, it's well worth the price, and that it'd be a great air pistol for training an adult or teenager. Customers are also happy with fun, and power. That said, some complain about the ease of loading. They say that it can be slowed down by the attention-greedy loading process, and it'll be difficult to insert a pellet. Customers also are disappointed with hardness.
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Customers like the quality of the air pistol. They mention that it's a good air pistol for training an adult or teenager some, it' s going strong, and has a much better quality barrel. The gun is excellently made, with all the quality you expect of fine German. It works well for them, and the cheap red dot works great for plinking. It's not a toy, it is a serious gun suitable for building proper shooting skills, and it works ok for the price.
"...I have about 250 pellets through it and working great...." Read more
"...They’re excellently made, with all the quality you expect of fine German guns.The P17, on the other hand, feels like a well made toy...." Read more
"...For the price, it is a nice air pistol, but only for those willing to spend an hour or so inspecting for, and likely correcting, the manufacturing..." Read more
"...Upon reinstalling, the sights were way off! Traced that to the bore being slightly off the center of the barrel confirming the poor workmanship...." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the accuracy of the pistol. They say it is an excellent value and a more accurate plinker than anything else in its category.
"...As a matter of fact, it's so fun to shoot this, it's so accurate, I'd almost just as soon shoot this out back than drag the real guns to the..." Read more
"...to say that all things considered it’s an excellent value, a more accurate plinker than anything else in its price range, and a good budget choice..." Read more
"...As for the pistol itself, they are usually VERY accurate, of reasonable power, and VERY clunky to cock and load...." Read more
"...As for the accuracy- well this shoots as accurate as it is consistent. I would be very hard pressed to find a better value in an air pistol." Read more
Customers like the value of the air rifle. They say it's well worth the price, a great deal for air gunning fun, and has a good trigger.
"EXCEPTIONAL value. Accuracy FAR exceeded my expectations. On slightly breezy day, I was hitting milk-jug lid at 18yd over 50% of time...." Read more
"...I’d have to say that all things considered it’s an excellent value, a more accurate plinker than anything else in its price range, and a good budget..." Read more
"...Thirty bucks very well spent.Quick update: I spent a few minutes sighting this in and it puts pellet after pellet in a 1/2 circle...." Read more
"...That being said the qulity of the 2 P17s I own is outstanding for the price paid...." Read more
Customers like the texture of the sporting good. They say the trigger is as good as they get until you get up to the $300+ pistols, with a good smooth trigger pull. They are impressed with the recoilless power and say it's great for working on trigger control. They also say it is a fine recoils pneumatic target pistol.
"...The trigger is amazing and breaks so cleanly that it is amazing to shoot..." Read more
"...the price it seems hard to beat especially given the accuracy and nice trigger...." Read more
"...The trigger is impressive and the rifled barrel can be very accurate if the crown is done correctly...." Read more
"...This is great for working on trigger control and accurate technique, no flinching or recoil anticipation "in your head" issues...." Read more
Customers like the power of the sporting good. They say it has impressive power, is accurate with acceptable power, and is a great value for the price. Some customers also mention that it is powerful enough to kill a tree-rat. They also say it is able to be a good deterrent and a powerful budget pistol.
"...As for the pistol itself, they are usually VERY accurate, of reasonable power, and VERY clunky to cock and load...." Read more
"...Any inaccuracy I see is ME, not the gun.Good power to shoot outdoors too...." Read more
"It is powerful budget pistol... you get the fps speed and power of a CO2 or multi-pump pistol... yet it's a single pump gun at a real low price...." Read more
"...This pellet gun is very accurate and powerful enough to kill a tree-rat (ie: squirrel)." Read more
Customers find the pistol to be great fun to shoot. They mention that it has a smooth trigger, is well-balanced, and has an accurate accuracy. Some customers say that it is the best shooting experience they have ever had with any weapon. They also mention that the pistol is the favorite of all the kids.
"...As a matter of fact, it's so fun to shoot this, it's so accurate, I'd almost just as soon shoot this out back than drag the real guns to the..." Read more
"...Please know that before buying. It is still very enjoyable to shoot it. And for the price....just can’t beat this deal...." Read more
"...powered pellet pistol, suitable for serious target shooting, and fun plinking...." Read more
"...Good power to shoot outdoors too.This is the best shooting experience of any weapon I've ever fired including all the ones mentioned..." Read more
Customers find the ease of loading to be a little difficult. They mention that the pellet loading is a bit difficult to insert, and the pumping was hard the first time. However, with practice, it feels easy.
"...Loading pellet is just a touch awkward but not too bad, just doesn't happen fast. Auto safety works fine - kinda a nice feature...." Read more
"...It is also initially difficult to load a pellet, but I also found that this got much easier...." Read more
"...Closing this airgun which completes the one pump cycle is extremely hard. Super hard. No kid can do it...." Read more
"Although this pellet gun is only a single shot and the piston is a little difficult to pump (not good for kids), this is a great gun...." Read more
Customers find the hardness of the sporting good to be a deterrent. They say it's difficult to cock, and may be difficult for a younger person to cuff. The cocking effort is considerable, and the sights are wrong for precision. However, once you get used to it, it'll be easy to reload.
"...Minuses:Horrible triggerVery high cocking forceSights are wrong for precision shooting..." Read more
"...they are usually VERY accurate, of reasonable power, and VERY clunky to cock and load...." Read more
"...and the other 391 with the same RWS pellets. Yes they take effort to cock but you do not need CO2 and you only need one pump to be able to shoot...." Read more
"...Super hard. No kid can do it. I can do it because I’m an adult but my wife could t close it...." Read more
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Gun fits in hands fairly well - not perfect, but fairly well. Feels just a touch big/thick, and I shoot double-stack pistols (Glock, HK)... reminds me slightly of how a Desert Eagle feels in the hands for width, though I'm NOT comparing it's overall feel to that which is also longer grip and different angles/curve. I typically wear size L gloves, but occasionally M. My 10yo who is big for his age can hold it and reach/pull trigger without straining with the gun shifted juuuust the slightest bit toward his thumb of Rt hand instead of dead-on in the web space. But it's barely so (maybe 1/8 to 1/4" out of perfect position) and he can still get adequate grip and hand position (better position even than I see a lot of casual shooters using at range). So it may feel a bit thick , but I would say it will "fit" most adult hands and most M to L teenager's hands. Sights have a cheep feel, but the red fore and green rear dots do the trick and rear are adjustable. Pumping action takes considerable force - my 10yo who's been shooting (real pistols) for a few years with me cannot pump it. I expected it would take fair bit of force as it shoots at 400 FPS with one pump, so no surprise there. Loading pellet is just a touch awkward but not too bad, just doesn't happen fast. Auto safety works fine - kinda a nice feature. I had read horror stories of burrs on air intake hole slicing up O-rings, so took mine down to examine that before shooting so as not to do such similar damage. I found the air intake hole that can have a burr on these guns - on the bottom face of the pump cylinder, toward the muzzle end. So, to get to that ... first you back out the set screw which holds in place the pin on which the "slide"-barrel complex pivots a couple turns. Now tap out the pin and you can then pull the piston out of the aluminum cylinder. The air intake hole is on the "side" facing down, toward what would be the frame on a real pistol, about 1/2" or so back into that cylinder as you look /reach in from the muzzle end. I felt around on it and it did not feel at all rough/sharp on my copy, so I reassembled everything and it's been working great.
Now, to the good stuff... This gun is amazingly accurate for the price. The trigger has a little bit of take-up, but then is far crisper with less creep than I expected for the price. No it's not perfect, but at the price, I just keep thinking "wow, it's priced like a toy but it functions like a decent gun." It's very consistent and the accuracy blows me away. Right now, I'm shooting basic crossman pointed pellets (I believe 7.4 gr). Shooting outside with slight wind, at 7yd, it's just one ragged hole and repeatedly hitting a 3/8" red circle "garage sale price tag" sticker is quite possible at 18 yd. Every time I shoot it, I can't believe how little I paid for it. I have about 250 pellets through it and working great. My purpose was to keep up skills when not able to get out and shoot pistol as much due to lack of close range, basically to keep working on hand position, stance, trigger release, etc. This pellet gun TOTALLY fills that role. As a matter of fact, it's so fun to shoot this, it's so accurate, I'd almost just as soon shoot this out back than drag the real guns to the range!!
As I paid <$40 for this, it's probably the best value purchase I've made in a long, long, long time. Absolutely love this gun. Awesome fun, awesome accuracy. With the possible 2 possible exceptions, i cannot think of a reason not to buy this pellet gun. 1) if you have small hands it might feel a bit large. 2) if you are not at all mechanically inclined and would not want to take it apart in case yours needs some polishing or "cleaning up" somewhere and you get one that needs such, you might be unhappy. But in that second case, it's still <$40!! Even if you have to take it down and tweak it or find some mechanically inclined friend, it's still a total bargain, iMHO.
The P17 is a Beeman-licensed, Chinese manufactured, copy of the Beeman P3, which itself is a rebranded HW40 manufactured by Weihrauch in Germany. The Weirauch gun is all metal gun that sells for around $240. What kind of quality and performance can you get for one seventh of that? Ive never handled a P3, but I have owned two Weirauch HW45s, which Beeman markets as the P1. They’re excellently made, with all the quality you expect of fine German guns.
The P17, on the other hand, feels like a well made toy. It’s mostly plastic, with a few metal parts- barrel, cylinder, trigger, and sear. I wouldn’t expect it to last as long as a P3, but if decently cared for it should last a few years. The pumping system is the same as that found on the FAS 6004 and the Game Compact, and it cocked and loaded the same way:
The upper part of the gun is unlatched via what looks like a hammer at the rear of the gun, and hinged forward. A pellet s inserted at the breech of the barrel, and the barrel/arm is hinged back into place, compressing air in the cylinder and cocking the trigger. This takes a surprisingly high amount of effort, far more than the FAS 6004 or the Game Compact. I don’t know if this is because the energy is higher, or because the cocking geometry is poorer, but there it is. It definitely takes an adult to do it. Once cocked, the slide safety is automatically engaged- an excellent feature on a gun designed for beginners, I think, and perhaps a necessary for experienced shooters as well, given the contortions you have to go through to cock it.
The adjustable sights are inexpensive but cleverly designed, using short pieces of “light pipe” plastic to create luminous dots under reasonably bright illumination. They’re the sort of sights you’d put on a combat gun, not one designed for shooting at paper targets, though, so while they’re very easy to see and quick to acquire, they’re not ideal for paper punching.
The trigger is… well, not wretched, but not very good. Its’s not too heavy, but it’s very long, You can’t feel the break coming, s there’s no way to stage it. The best technique I found was to get a good target hold while quickly and smoothly pulling straight through. Shooting two handed, I got groups under an inch at 10 meters with the stock sights. I then tried attaching a Millet dot sight that costs twice as much as the gun, and shooting one handed, as if I were shooting Bullseye. After a few shots to get the Millet more-or-less on target, I got the equivalent of around 485 out f 600 shooting at a standard ISSF Air Pistol 10m target. That’s actually not bad, considering how horrid the trigger is when compared to even a cheap match gun like the Gamo Compact.
In summary, then, The plusses:
Surprisingly accurate
Really Cheap
Fairly well made
High velocity for a single stroke pneumatic
You can mount a scope or dot sight
Recoilless
Minuses:
Horrible trigger
Very high cocking force
Sights are wrong for precision shooting
I’d have to say that all things considered it’s an excellent value, a more accurate plinker than anything else in its price range, and a good budget choice for learning basic pistol marksmanship- especially if you can’t afford anything better.
Reviewed in the United States on June 13, 2017
The P17 is a Beeman-licensed, Chinese manufactured, copy of the Beeman P3, which itself is a rebranded HW40 manufactured by Weihrauch in Germany. The Weirauch gun is all metal gun that sells for around $240. What kind of quality and performance can you get for one seventh of that? Ive never handled a P3, but I have owned two Weirauch HW45s, which Beeman markets as the P1. They’re excellently made, with all the quality you expect of fine German guns.
The P17, on the other hand, feels like a well made toy. It’s mostly plastic, with a few metal parts- barrel, cylinder, trigger, and sear. I wouldn’t expect it to last as long as a P3, but if decently cared for it should last a few years. The pumping system is the same as that found on the FAS 6004 and the Game Compact, and it cocked and loaded the same way:
The upper part of the gun is unlatched via what looks like a hammer at the rear of the gun, and hinged forward. A pellet s inserted at the breech of the barrel, and the barrel/arm is hinged back into place, compressing air in the cylinder and cocking the trigger. This takes a surprisingly high amount of effort, far more than the FAS 6004 or the Game Compact. I don’t know if this is because the energy is higher, or because the cocking geometry is poorer, but there it is. It definitely takes an adult to do it. Once cocked, the slide safety is automatically engaged- an excellent feature on a gun designed for beginners, I think, and perhaps a necessary for experienced shooters as well, given the contortions you have to go through to cock it.
The adjustable sights are inexpensive but cleverly designed, using short pieces of “light pipe” plastic to create luminous dots under reasonably bright illumination. They’re the sort of sights you’d put on a combat gun, not one designed for shooting at paper targets, though, so while they’re very easy to see and quick to acquire, they’re not ideal for paper punching.
The trigger is… well, not wretched, but not very good. Its’s not too heavy, but it’s very long, You can’t feel the break coming, s there’s no way to stage it. The best technique I found was to get a good target hold while quickly and smoothly pulling straight through. Shooting two handed, I got groups under an inch at 10 meters with the stock sights. I then tried attaching a Millet dot sight that costs twice as much as the gun, and shooting one handed, as if I were shooting Bullseye. After a few shots to get the Millet more-or-less on target, I got the equivalent of around 485 out f 600 shooting at a standard ISSF Air Pistol 10m target. That’s actually not bad, considering how horrid the trigger is when compared to even a cheap match gun like the Gamo Compact.
In summary, then, The plusses:
Surprisingly accurate
Really Cheap
Fairly well made
High velocity for a single stroke pneumatic
You can mount a scope or dot sight
Recoilless
Minuses:
Horrible trigger
Very high cocking force
Sights are wrong for precision shooting
I’d have to say that all things considered it’s an excellent value, a more accurate plinker than anything else in its price range, and a good budget choice for learning basic pistol marksmanship- especially if you can’t afford anything better.