Brand | Honeywell |
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Controller Type | Vera, Amazon Alexa, iOS, Android |
Special Feature | Programmable |
Color | Silver |
Specific Uses For Product | Furnace |
Temperature Control Type | Heating and Cooling |
Connectivity Technology | Wi-Fi |
Included Components | Thermostat, Mounting Hardware, User Manual |
Item Weight | 150 Grams |
Voltage | 30 Volts |
Shape | Rectangular |
Display Type | Digital |
Screen Size | 3.5 Inches |
Control Type | Touch |
Control Method | Voice |
Connectivity Protocol | Wi-Fi |
Mounting Type | Embedded |
Style | Smart,Touch |
Backlight | Yes |
Specification Met | Energy Saving Thermostat |
Manufacturer | Honeywell |
Part Number | RTH9580WF1005/W1 |
Item Weight | 5.3 ounces |
Product Dimensions | 4.5 x 0.88 x 3.5 inches |
Item model number | RTH9580WF1005/W1 |
Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
Size | 8.06 sq inch |
Installation Method | Wall-Mounted |
Item Package Quantity | 1 |
Special Features | Programmable |
Batteries Included? | No |
Batteries Required? | No |
Honeywell RTH9580WF Wi-Fi Smart Thermostat - For Air Conditioner
Brand | Honeywell |
Controller Type | Vera, Amazon Alexa, iOS, Android |
Special Feature | Programmable |
Color | Silver |
Specific Uses For Product | Furnace |
About this item
- Works with Alexa for voice control (Alexa device sold separately).
- Customize the screen color to match any décor, Control from anywhere with iOS and Android devices, Simple setup with smart programmable features for home or business
- Energy Savings: Choose programmable mode to save on annual heating and cooling costs. C-wire needed for proper installation.
- Locking Touchscreen: Advanced locking features and password options provide smart security and convenience
- Allows remote access to the thermostat through a computer, tablet, or smart phone with Honeywell's Total Connect Comfort Service
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Honeywell Wi-Fi Smart Thermostat, Control from anywhere, via iPhone, iPad, Android and computer.The extreme flexibility of the Honeywell Wi-Fi smart thermostat allows you to uniquely program your device as either a home or business thermostat and then offers scheduling features specific to your home or business.For a business, simply select the temperature that you prefer when the building is occupied, and you won't have to worry about cold mornings or hot afternoons.You can also select the temperature that you prefer when your business is unoccupied, so you won't have to worry about wasting energy.Tell your Wi-Fi smart thermostat what temperature you prefer when you wake, and you'll never have to endure another cold morning. Smart Response Technology for 24-7 ComfortThis smart thermostat even learns your heating and cooling cycle times to deliver just the right temperature, right when you want it.The Honeywell Wi-Fi smart thermostat learns the exact amount of time necessary to reach your perfect temperature and acts accordingly, so energy isn't wasted and your comfort isn't compromised.otal Connect Comfort AppHoneywell's reliable and highly-rated app allows you to program your thermostat from your computer, tablet, and smartphone, whether you're across the room or around the world. This allows the user to remotely monitor and manage home's comfort and energy usage anytime, anywhereThis highly rated app is backed by Honeywell's reliable network, for dependable access and peace of mind. Available for iOS and Android devices. Auto AlertsExtreme temperature alerts and filter change reminders are sent to connected network devices and displayed on Honeywell Wi-Fi smart thermostat.
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Wi-Fi Smart Thermostat from Honeywell
Smart features, customizable touchscreen, and simple setup, plus Wi-Fi remote access.
• Control from anywhere with iOS and Android devices
• Simple setup with smart programmable features for home or business
• Easy-to-read customizable color touchscreen
• Smart Response temperature timing
• Advanced fan/comfort control and indoor humidity sensor
* Compatible with thermostats with 110V or higher and systems containing a c-wire (see chart below to determine compatibility)
Smart Programmable Features
Smart, Flexible Scheduling
The extreme flexibility of the Honeywell Wi-Fi smart thermostat allows you to uniquely program your device as either a home or business thermostat and then offers scheduling features specific to your home or business.
For a business, simply select the temperature that you prefer when the building is occupied, and you won't have to worry about cold mornings or hot afternoons.
You can also select the temperature that you prefer when your business is unoccupied, so you won't have to worry about wasting energy.
Tell your Wi-Fi smart thermostat what temperature you prefer when you wake, and you'll never have to endure another cold morning.
Smart Response Technology for 24-7 Comfort
This smart thermostat even learns your heating and cooling cycle times to deliver just the right temperature, right when you want it.
The Honeywell Wi-Fi smart thermostat learns the exact amount of time necessary to reach your perfect temperature and acts accordingly, so energy isn't wasted and your comfort isn't compromised.
Reliable Wi Fi Operation and Control
Total Connect Comfort App
Honeywell's reliable and highly-rated app allows you to program your thermostat from your computer, tablet, and smartphone, whether you're across the room or around the world. This allows the user to remotely monitor and manage home's comfort and energy usage anytime, anywhere
This highly rated app is backed by Honeywell's reliable network, for dependable access and peace of mind. Available for iOS and Android devices.
Auto Alerts
Extreme temperature alerts and filter change reminders are sent to connected network devices and displayed on Honeywell Wi-Fi smart thermostat.
Advanced Comfort and Control Features
Customizable Color Touchscreen
Easily change the high-definition display to any color you choose. The bright, easy-to-read touchscreen can be color customized to fit your mood, match your paint, or support your favorite team!
Locking Touchscreen
Advanced locking features and password options provide smart security and convenience. Optional password protection allows only designated users to access the security settings and locking options. A 30-second lockout affords you the opportunity to clean the thermostat, so you don't have to live with fingerprints on your touchscreen device.
On-screen Comfort Information
See indoor and outdoor temperature and humidity information right on the home screen.
Indoor Humidity Sensor
Indoor humidity displayed below temparture on touchscreen
Advanced Fan/Control Comfort
Improves air circulation and helps regulate the temperature throughout your home
Simple Programming
Tool-free wiring, manual-free install and setup
Energy Savings
Choose programmable mode to save on annual heating and cooling costs
Home Compatibility
Compatible with heating, cooling and heat pumps.
Does not work with heat pumps with electric baseboard heat (120-240 volts)
In order to power your Honeywell Wi-Fi smart thermostat (RTH9580WF), your system must contain a c-wire. Use the chart below to confirm that your system meets the compatibility requirements. This chart will determine compatibility with most systems, but as wiring systems vary from home to home, there may be some exceptions.
- Does your current thermostat have 110V or higher written on it? If yes this system is compatible — continue to next question.
- Do you have thick wires that are connected using wire nuts? If yes — your system is not compatible. If no — continue to the next question.
- Do you have a wire connected to terminal labeled "C"? If yes — your system is compatible. If no move the next question.
- Do you have an extra wire that is not connected to any terminal on the thermostat wall plate? Or — if no — do you have a wire connected to terminal labeled "G"? If yes to either of these questions, this thermostat may be compatible with your system.
To help you know for sure if your system will work with the Wi-Fi thermostat, please send us a picture of your current thermostat wiring. Take a picture of your current wall plate with wires connected to the lettered terminals.
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ASIN | B00FLZEQH2 |
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4.2 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #217,002 in Tools & Home Improvement (See Top 100 in Tools & Home Improvement) #288 in Home Programmable Thermostats |
Date First Available | June 19, 2013 |
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"...But it gives you quick-set recommendations, which make setting up the schedule super-fast.Bottom line:..." Read more
"...The Android app is flawless. In fact, it's even easier to set, and edit, the schedule using the app than it is on-screen. It's all very flexible...." Read more
"...I have to give it to Apple, Homekit is much more user friendly and intuitive than most smart device apps...." Read more
"...The features are clear, setup was easy, use was straightforward. When I bought it in July 2015 I was thrilled with it...." Read more
Customers like the performance of the thermostat. They say it works well, is the absolute equivalent in terms of functionality, and serves a useful function. Customers also appreciate the online application and the mobile application. They mention the WiFi was effortless and the remote control worked flawlessly. Overall, customers are happy with the product and the company that made it.
"...Otherwise, the touchscreen works well and I prefer it to the "turn the dial", or "scroll the alphabet" with Up/Down button, text..." Read more
"...The synch with the WiFi was effortless, mobile control worked flawlessly. And it looks great!..." Read more
"...In conclusion, the thermostat is a top-notch smart home device that has significantly improved my daily living experience...." Read more
"...is a huge step forward, and Honeywell has done a solid job with the software that monitors and controls them." Read more
Customers like the temperature control of the product. For example, they say it's a great product that allows them to adjust the temperature, power state, and schedule. They also appreciate the accuracy and the ability to permanently hold the temperature. Customers also say the free app for their iPhone allows them control the thermostat from anywhere. They say the room air temperature remains steady and comfortable, and moves cooler air from the basement to the upper floors.
"...This effectively moves cooler air from my basement to the upper floors without running the compressor...." Read more
"...Both are absolutely great thermostats. I love them both for different reasons...." Read more
"...The brightness is configurable as well...." Read more
"...I've seen a few people saying that the temperature isn't displayed accurately...." Read more
Customers like the appearance of the thermostat. They mention that it has a modern design, and looks clean and sophisticated. Customers also say that it's well-designed, and has readable information.
"...the other hand, the Nest itself with its circular face is just pretty cool looking on its own...." Read more
"...Adios Honeywell. You had a really great looking product, one that worked so well when I first got it that I tried as hard as I could to get it..." Read more
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"...is built with that same philosophy in mind, and it really is a great looking device...." Read more
Customers like the color of the wall unit. They say it has several color options to choose from and the choice between colors/backlight is quite nice. Customers also like that they can color coordinate to their walls and the background can be changed to match the surroundings. They also say the resolution and quality of the color screen is good. Overall, customers are satisfied with the color and functionality of the product.
"...The screen is customizable, so my wife and I made it match the background wall paint, just for laughs...." Read more
"...With this Honeywell, having the ability to choose your screen color to work with your décor or style is something that's pretty neat...." Read more
"...The color touch screen interface makes navigating through the thermostat's settings and options a breeze...." Read more
"...You can change the color of the background to match the color of your room (including creating your own custom color background)...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the quality of the product. Some mention it's very reliable, well built, and performs its purpose as advertised. They're impressed with the quality and clarity of the photos. However, others say that they had a mechanical failure and a fatal flaw.
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"...different temperature preferences for each day of the week, optimizing energy efficiency and saving on heating and cooling costs...." Read more
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Customers have issues with the connectivity of the thermostat. They mention that the C wire can make its WiFi connectivity spotty and intermittent. The thermostat also fails to connect to the wireless router even when every other device in the house is still connected. Customers also say that the terminal connection is pretty chincy and easy to break. They have had to reset the connection multiple times and the WiFi keeps dropping off.
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A few things about unit I received, to provide a counterpoint to a lot of the reviews and comments I have read which are either inaccurate, or outdated (perhaps due to device/software updates), based on my experience. First off - this is a RT model, meaning Retail. Not sure what was being shipped a couple of years ago but this is what I got this month. It has a one year warranty, and Amazon offers extended warranties. Second, it does get updates for outside temp and humidity, which seems to have been an issue with older devices/software.
I found installation to be a snap. I did need to add a "C" wire, but with a new furnace, I just took an unused wire in the existing thermostat wiring harness and connected it on both ends as shown in the excellent videos. I also labeled it with the included wiring tags (another nice touch) since I couldn't use the industry standard Blue wire for "C". It helps to make sure the stripped wire ends are: a) long enough and b) straight. Don't try to straighten out the existing bent and stripped ends unless you absolutely don't have enough wire to cut and strip clean ends. They just won't make good contact and that can lead to all sorts of issues.
I don't have a 2 stage furnace, but the wiring seems to support that, as does the programming. There are also specific settings and wiring diagrams for Heat Pumps that must be observed.
I connected to my wifi easily, and on the first attempt. I have a long wifi password (everyone should) and while entering it, I did wish for a Caps Lock key, because otherwise, each time you want to type a capital letter, you need to re-tap the Shift key, and then you type the letter and the keyboard goes back to lowercase. That made typing multiple capital letters in a row a bit of a pain, but fortunately something you may never do more than once. Otherwise, the touchscreen works well and I prefer it to the "turn the dial", or "scroll the alphabet" with Up/Down button, text entry methods of some other wifi thermostats.
The screen is customizable, so my wife and I made it match the background wall paint, just for laughs. It is quite an amazing color match, and you have a lot of control over the color palette. Note that when customizing the background color, the brightness there is for the color brightness/depth, not the screen brightness. I read a review where someone complained that the screen brightness was useless, and I suspect they were not adjusting the right setting. You do not use the Color Theme menu for this. You can make the screen completely dark, but only when it goes idle, by changing the Backlight Settings under Preferences. (I wasn't sure about using this thermostat in a bedroom until I found that setting, but now it seems like it's a good option.)
I also think, based on my experience with computer screens for many years, that dimming or turning off the backlight will reduce the heat emitted by the screen, thus giving a more accurate temperature reading. That one tip might help a lot of people with their temperature accuracy issues.
** UPDATED ** I thought I would test out my hypothesis about the higher backlight levels generating more heat. So, I changed the backlight from the default, down to level 1, and after a few hours measured the screen temperature with a very accurate Infrared meter. At a room temp pf 78 degrees, the screen temp was 84 degrees (F). Then, I set the backlight to the max - level 10 - and waited a few hours. Same room temp, but the screen temp was 90 degrees (F). So, I believe that it's quite possible high backlight levels can cause erroneous temperature readings, although perhaps someone from Honeywell can chime in to confirm. But, the screen is still readable at backlight level 1, with the light color scheme I chose, so there is no harm in dimming it. Tapping the screen turns the backlight back to normal viewing levels.
You can always tap a dimmed screen to wake it up and see the current temperature and settings, or do this from your computer or phone.
I really like this thermostat's option of running the fan in Circulate mode, where it runs 35% of the time. You can schedule it so the fan does not circulate at night, or during any scheduled heating/cooling window. This effectively moves cooler air from my basement to the upper floors without running the compressor. If the AC coils are still cool, it will also act as a short-term dehumidifier. (I'm not sure how many other thermostats have this feature.) I would say that I don't think people with air handlers in an attic or un-insulated crawlspace should do this without checking to see if the air that is circulated isn't being heated or cooled by the ambient air surrounding the air handler. From prior testing, I know that my attic unit would just heat the air if the A/C compressor isn't running, so I wouldn't want to circulate air there.
Scheduling online is a breeze. I really like the ability to set each day individually, or to set a group of days, such as the workdays, all the same. I set my Monday-Friday the same, and then the weekends on a different schedule. Then I tweaked the Friday night schedule to reflect the later bedtime. My only gripe about the online scheduler is that once you set your schedule, it's not very intuitive as to how to get back to it and change it. I think Honeywell should add a Schedule button to the main page to make it easier to navigate.
A couple of other things to note - the thermostat seems to predict when it should turn on or off to meet the next scheduling window. This is to ensure the house is at the desired temperature at the start of the next scheduled period. That's great when you arrive home at 5:30 and the house is already cool, not just starting to get cool. The thermostat also learns how long it takes to change the temperature, so it does this efficiently and you don't have to set the house to be cool at 5:00 just so it's ready at 5:30. But, I found the opposite to be true - if you set your Leave time to 8:00AM, and set the cooling temperature to rise to 83 degrees at that time, the thermostat actually starts to let the temperature rise a few minutes beforehand, so it is at 83 degrees at 8:00 AM. I would characterize this as a software flaw, because you really want the house to stay at the cooler temp _until_ you leave. The workaround is simple though - just add a few minutes (like 10 or 15) to your Leave start time, and you will be all set. I hope Honeywell addresses this, perhaps by making it a configurable option such as: "Hold Temp Until Leave Time Starts."
I love the simplicity of the Honeywell's touchscreen. And I like that it tells you the outside temps and humidity, the date, and time all on the home-screen, all at once. Nests have much less info on the screen and you need to turn the dial and find everything, like weather, etc. On the Honeywell, to navigate to settings and schedules, there are touchscreen tabs at the top of the screen. Pretty intuitive.
Wiring:
The Honeywell absolutely requires a "C" wire to work. If you don't have one, you will need to run one for the Honeywell for it to work. I originally did not have one, but I had one added for $100 by an electrician. If you don't want to go through the expense or hassle, you may want to go for the Nest instead, because while the system works best with a C wire, it can work without one. But it depends on how much power it can pull from the other wires. Not having a C wire can make its Wi-Fi connectivity spotty/intermittent. And that means sometimes you can't interact with it via the mobile App and delays in it knowing what the external weather is.
Apps:
Nest has its merits, for sure, like their App that gives a lot of insights as to how you're doing with efficiency (like showing that for the past week, Monday, the heater only ran for 15 minutes; and Tuesday, it didn't come on at all... that kind of thing). I will say, however, Honeywell and Nest keep improving their Apps continuously, so as soon as I comment on App features, they change and have new functions... so that's a positive for both products. Who can be upset with constant improvements?
Aesthetics:
Both the Honeywell and Nest are very slick/modern looking. With this Honeywell, having the ability to choose your screen color to work with your décor or style is something that's pretty neat. Or you can change it up when you're bored. The Nest, however, does not have a function to change its color. It is always black. On the other hand, the Nest itself with its circular face is just pretty cool looking on its own. I'll leave you to decide what is more pleasing, as it's a matter of opinion.
Some notes about programming your schedule:
Nests, are all about "learning" about you. So, in default/factory setting mode they are set in "auto" schedule program mode, which means you go about your daily routines and "train" it, so it learns your preferred home temps and schedule. If you're letting it "learn you", it goes something like this... You to wake up, change the temp, leave the house and adjust the temp before doing so, come home and ... You get where I'm going. Finally, after a few days of that, it pretty much understands your patterns (unless you're really unpredictable/erratic). That learning feature can be awesome for some, since some folks want to let it do the work. But some people are more control freaks (like myself) and want to tell it what temps at what times to come on and off from the get-go. So, if you find the learning feature takes too long to learn your schedule, simply read the directions and turn off the auto learn function, and then program your schedule to however you want. The Honeywell does not learn and has you set your desired temps and schedule from the first moment you install it by default. But it gives you quick-set recommendations, which make setting up the schedule super-fast.
Bottom line:
Both are absolutely great thermostats. I love them both for different reasons. Maybe the biggest difference for some would be the "C" wire requirement for Honeywell (if you don't have a C wire in your wall already and if you don't want to have to have that wire added).
I always read reviews before purchasing and find some quite helpful, so I hope you find this review helpful!
Reviewed in the United States on April 7, 2016
I love the simplicity of the Honeywell's touchscreen. And I like that it tells you the outside temps and humidity, the date, and time all on the home-screen, all at once. Nests have much less info on the screen and you need to turn the dial and find everything, like weather, etc. On the Honeywell, to navigate to settings and schedules, there are touchscreen tabs at the top of the screen. Pretty intuitive.
Wiring:
The Honeywell absolutely requires a "C" wire to work. If you don't have one, you will need to run one for the Honeywell for it to work. I originally did not have one, but I had one added for $100 by an electrician. If you don't want to go through the expense or hassle, you may want to go for the Nest instead, because while the system works best with a C wire, it can work without one. But it depends on how much power it can pull from the other wires. Not having a C wire can make its Wi-Fi connectivity spotty/intermittent. And that means sometimes you can't interact with it via the mobile App and delays in it knowing what the external weather is.
Apps:
Nest has its merits, for sure, like their App that gives a lot of insights as to how you're doing with efficiency (like showing that for the past week, Monday, the heater only ran for 15 minutes; and Tuesday, it didn't come on at all... that kind of thing). I will say, however, Honeywell and Nest keep improving their Apps continuously, so as soon as I comment on App features, they change and have new functions... so that's a positive for both products. Who can be upset with constant improvements?
Aesthetics:
Both the Honeywell and Nest are very slick/modern looking. With this Honeywell, having the ability to choose your screen color to work with your décor or style is something that's pretty neat. Or you can change it up when you're bored. The Nest, however, does not have a function to change its color. It is always black. On the other hand, the Nest itself with its circular face is just pretty cool looking on its own. I'll leave you to decide what is more pleasing, as it's a matter of opinion.
Some notes about programming your schedule:
Nests, are all about "learning" about you. So, in default/factory setting mode they are set in "auto" schedule program mode, which means you go about your daily routines and "train" it, so it learns your preferred home temps and schedule. If you're letting it "learn you", it goes something like this... You to wake up, change the temp, leave the house and adjust the temp before doing so, come home and ... You get where I'm going. Finally, after a few days of that, it pretty much understands your patterns (unless you're really unpredictable/erratic). That learning feature can be awesome for some, since some folks want to let it do the work. But some people are more control freaks (like myself) and want to tell it what temps at what times to come on and off from the get-go. So, if you find the learning feature takes too long to learn your schedule, simply read the directions and turn off the auto learn function, and then program your schedule to however you want. The Honeywell does not learn and has you set your desired temps and schedule from the first moment you install it by default. But it gives you quick-set recommendations, which make setting up the schedule super-fast.
Bottom line:
Both are absolutely great thermostats. I love them both for different reasons. Maybe the biggest difference for some would be the "C" wire requirement for Honeywell (if you don't have a C wire in your wall already and if you don't want to have to have that wire added).
I always read reviews before purchasing and find some quite helpful, so I hope you find this review helpful!